# Dana Done with Bad Guy Gannou

**URL:** <https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196>\
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**Created:** [October 27, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196 "2024-10-27T21:42:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:42pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/1 "2024-10-27T21:42:52Z")

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> **[White: Bad guy Ngannou ducked ‘Bones,’ not welcome back to UFC](https://www.mmamania.com/2024/10/27/24281125/dana-white-done-with-bad-guy-francis-ngannou-well-never-be-in-business-together)**
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> The bridges are well burnt between the UFC and Francis Ngannou according to CEO Dana White, who declared Franny is not the good person he pretends to be.

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**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/2 "2024-10-27T21:43:18Z")

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**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/3 "2024-10-27T21:44:44Z")

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Dana White didn’t hold back when asked about Francis Ngannou during Saturday’s UFC 308 post-fight press conference.

White and Ngannou have engaged in a back-and-forth through the press for the past two weeks, with White claiming “The Predator” fumbled the bag by accepting less money outside the UFC than he’d make if he stayed. Francis, already nearly $40 million in earnings over the past year, disagrees.

Now White is pulling a Mad Men on Ngannou. When a reporter quoted Franny saying he was sure White [“prays for his downfall,”](https://www.mmamania.com/2024/10/25/24279852/francis-ngannou-fires-back-at-bully-dana-white-im-sure-hes-been-praying-for-my-downfall-pfl-ufc-cut) Dana let ‘er rip.

“I don’t think about Francis that much,” he said. “You guys asked me the question about the PFL, and I responded. Other than that, the only one who’s praying for his demise is probably the PFL, because they signed a shitty contract with a guy that doesn’t deliver any numbers. And ticket sales and pay-per-views. So and they gotta keep paying this guy for however long. Good for him. Not good for them.”

“He can he can play those games all he wants,” White insisted. “He he would have made more money here.”

Who’s telling the truth? Well, the numbers have been crunched, and even if Ngannou went 3-0 in his next three UFC fights including two superfights with Jon Jones, he still would have only made around $31 million. He’s already made more than that in the past year losing twice in boxing and defeating Renan Ferreira in the PFL.

He has one more $8 million fight with PFL before becoming a free agent in MMA again, but don’t expect Dana White to bid for his services. In fact, if White had had his way [he would have cut Ngannou](https://www.mmamania.com/2024/10/24/24278936/dana-white-reveals-he-was-begged-not-to-cut-francis-ngannou-after-his-second-ufc-loss) after his bunk fight with Derrick Lewis in 2018.

“I didn’t like Francis as a person,” White said. “Wasn’t a guy I wanted to do business with. My boys were telling me he’s misunderstood. And I told them, when somebody shows you who they are, believe them.”

“Yeah, it wasn’t about him becoming the heavyweight champion of the world. Francis isn’t a good guy. He plays the good guy. ‘I don’t understand the language,’ so he seems like a nice guy. He’s not. And he’s just not a guy that I wanted to be in business with. Period. End of story. Whether he became the champion or not.”

“We’ll never be in business together,” he added. “I mean, you could tell. Yeah, we don’t like each other. And this goes way back. This goes back to before the first Stipe fight. He pulled some shit before the first Stipe fight and I said, ‘I’m done with this guy.’ And then Stipe beat the shit out of him. Great night.”

Does that sound like the words of someone who prays for Ngannou’s downfall?

Now despite Ngannou declaring a Jones fight won’t happen because White won’t make it happen, White is saying it was [Francis that’s at fault](https://www.mmamania.com/2024/10/24/24278936/dana-white-reveals-he-was-begged-not-to-cut-francis-ngannou-after-his-second-ufc-loss) for the lack of a potential heavyweight superfight.

“He didn’t want that fight,” White said. “He could’ve stayed and took that fight. He didn’t want that fight. Tom Aspinall deserves that fight.”

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**Author:** ![James\_III](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@James\_III](https://og.discourse.group/u/James_III)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/4 "2024-10-27T21:56:11Z")

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> [@HongKongPhooey](#):
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> He pulled some shit before the first Stipe fight and I said, ‘I’m done with this guy.’ And then Stipe beat the shit out of him. Great night.”

LOL that line made me laugh.

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**Author:** ![IceCold](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/icecold/32/105086_2.png) [@IceCold](https://og.discourse.group/u/IceCold)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/5 "2024-10-27T22:12:22Z")

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Dana acting like a salty ex girlfriend. Not surprising.

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**Author:** ![JabToucher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/jabtoucher/32/23550_2.png) [@JabToucher](https://og.discourse.group/u/JabToucher)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:03pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/6 "2024-10-27T23:03:21Z")

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He was never his friend!

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**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/7 "2024-10-27T23:11:26Z")

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> [@IceCold](#):
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> Dana acting like a salty ex girlfriend. Not surprising.

ICECOLD

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**Author:** ![FG\_Gall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/74df32/32.png) [@FG\_Gall](https://og.discourse.group/u/FG_Gall)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:30pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/8 "2024-10-27T23:30:33Z")

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Wait until Dana has to compete with PFL Africa…

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**Author:** ![Refugee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/refugee/32/3678_2.png) [@Refugee](https://og.discourse.group/u/Refugee)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/9 "2024-10-27T23:41:29Z")

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Dana full of shit  
We all know it

He let the HW Linear Belt leave the UFC

Now he is in damage control and smear campaign mode

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/10 "2024-10-28T00:56:57Z")

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Dana’s pissed because Francis called his bluff and it paid off… BIG.

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**Author:** ![Cyberc92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f17d59/32.png) [@Cyberc92](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cyberc92)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/11 "2024-10-28T01:00:37Z")

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PFL got fucked in this deal.

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**Author:** ![FG\_Gall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/74df32/32.png) [@FG\_Gall](https://og.discourse.group/u/FG_Gall)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/12 "2024-10-28T01:39:04Z")

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> [@Cyberc92](#):
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> PFL got fucked in this deal.

This. Francis won and the PFL lost. Asides from Dana’s hurt ego, I don’t think it matters much to the UFC’s bottom line.

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**Author:** ![TerrySilver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@TerrySilver](https://og.discourse.group/u/TerrySilver)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 3:14am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/13 "2024-10-28T03:14:09Z")

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Dana had beef with Francis a few years ago he said at a press conference that Francis had a big ego and was a dick to people backstage. This was a few years back. This is when Francis had that blond hair gimmick. I never liked the guy he always seemed fake humble. Guy would be eating cats if not for Dana white.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/14 "2024-10-28T10:06:15Z")

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The ironing.

If Francis hadn’t left, we would have never seen Jon at HW. I guess I should expect Dana to want to change the narrative from how his “GOAT” is ducking the entire division aside from a retiree coming off of a loss from 5 years ago.

You aren’t fooling anybody worth fooling Dana. We know which HW has been quacking for years.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/15 "2024-10-28T10:52:28Z")

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Jones accepted that fight. What are you talking about?

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/16 "2024-10-28T11:37:02Z")

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You mean now when he knew how unlikely it was…especially compared to Aspinall?

When they were in the same org, Jon wouldn’t even set foot in his weight class. Then even when he did, refused any actual contenders there.

I think Jon could have beaten Francis too, if only he had the guts to try it before. 🤷

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/17 "2024-10-28T11:42:29Z")

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Didnt he accept when ngannou was still in UFC?

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:05pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/18 "2024-10-28T12:05:28Z")

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Not that I’m aware. He just played the Conor game of making (and often deleting) tweets to get attention when Francis won but he sat on the sidelines not committing to anything until about 2 minutes after Francis left and it was just him, Gane and Stipe lol.

Shit like this. Funny how different Dana’s tune was when he had him signed. “Jones might want to go to 185” lol.

> **[UFC 260: Dana White responds to Jon Jones callout of Francis Ngannou, 'We can...](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mma/news/ufc-260-dana-white-responds-to-jon-jones-callout-of-francis-ngannou-we-can-make-that-fight-right-now/amp/)**
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> White told Jones that all he had to do was make one phone call to make the fight happen

Francis win. Jones says “lets play” then deletes it. Dana says “we can make that fight right now, you should probably drop to MW you little ho” and Jones sits on his thumbs until Francis goes away.

Then probably realizes after the Gane fight that he probably would have tapped Francis in a round or two and he fucked up lol.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 12:44pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/19 "2024-10-28T12:44:15Z")

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> [@HongKongPhooey](#):
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> when somebody shows you who they are, believe them

Great saying.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dana-done-with-bad-guy-gannou/11196/20 "2024-10-28T13:17:44Z")

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Francis touched on this quite a while ago on Ariel. Forget the full details but says it all stems from Francis saying or asking Dana, or his staff “is my plane ready” or “get my plane ready” which he says was a joke at the time. Seemed to have severely upset everyone and was downhill from there.

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