# DC Dismisses PFL and Bellator, Says UFC is the Only Place to Earn “Superstardom” **URL:** \ **Category:** UltimateGround\ **Created:** [October 9, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365 "2024-10-09T04:15:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 4:15am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/1 "2024-10-09T04:15:06Z")
> **[Daniel Cormier dismisses PFL and Bellator, says UFC is the only place to earn...](https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/daniel-cormier/daniel-cormier-dismisses-pfl-bellator-says-ufc-only-place-superstardom/)** > > Daniel Cormier feels the UFC is the only MMA promotion in which athletes truly have an opportunity to achieve a superstar fame level. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/2 "2024-10-09T04:16:11Z")
UFC Hall of Famer Daniel Cormier feels the UFC is the only MMA promotion in which athletes truly have an opportunity to achieve a superstar fame level. ![Daniel Cormier, Francis Ngannou, Renan Ferreira, Cedric Doumbe](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/3X/a/4/a42d0765e8d80e362366dbeae2770a9f0daa78d6.jpeg) Cormier sat cage-side as UFC light heavyweight champion [Alex Pereira](https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/alex-pereira/alex-pereira-fuels-heavyweight-move-chilling-social-media-post/) defeated Khalil Rountree Jr. at UFC 307. Pereira defended the belt for the third time in just seven months and rallied from early adversity to finish Rountree. Cormier is a student of MMA, going back to his rapid rise to the UFC and multiple world championships. Before he signed with the UFC, he made a name for himself in promotions like Strikeforce and King of the Cage. Cormier achieved legend status during his UFC run. As PFL and Bellator attempt to close the gap with the UFC and add more options for fighters, Cormier believes these promotions are biting off more than they can chew. During a recent episode of [_Funky and the Champ_](https://youtu.be/VpUOhnNQhyg?si=p15oq_JZnWI624GO) with Ben Askren, Cormier weighed in on the monopoly in modern mixed martial arts. “The NBA doesn’t exist without the best players in the world,” Cormier explained. “There are 100 leagues around the world, but they can never hold a candle to what the NBA is, so the best come and play here…there’s one place to fight, just one place. Because guess what? There’s only one place that honestly, not even trying to be a UFC guy, where you reach superstardom. One place where you fight the best in the world, where you maximize your visibility and earnings inside the Octagon and outside… “Every other organization tries. And then eventually, it starts to falter,” Cormier continued. “I don’t understand why. The only one who has found success is Scott Coker, he’s the only guy who has found sustained success outside the UFC…every year the gap widens, and not even just a little bit, it doubles…every time the PFL uses the Kayla Harrison loss to promote someone on another card, that just tells you that they’re just throwing s\*\*\* at the wall, hoping something sticks.” Kayla Harison signed with the UFC following a long, decorated tenure with PFL. Despite recent jabs from PFL founder Donn Davis, Harrison has amassed a 2-0 record in her UFC career. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/3 "2024-10-09T04:16:40Z")
> **[Kayla Harrison reacts to PFL taking shots at her since UFC move: "I could say...](https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/kayla-harrison/kayla-harrison-reacts-pfl-taking-shots-since-ufc-move/)** > > UFC bantamweight contender Kayla Harrison responded to the PFL's promotion of her lone career defeat to market one of their biggest stars. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/4 "2024-10-09T04:16:58Z")
![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/3X/9/5/95ca506efa86be69e4cac7f7a95fa8c8aa669fca.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/5 "2024-10-09T04:21:11Z")
He aint wrong , im watching it happen ---
**Author:** ![SmilinLikeRashad](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/smilinlikerashad/32/2465_2.png) [@SmilinLikeRashad](https://og.discourse.group/u/SmilinLikeRashad)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 4:34am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/6 "2024-10-09T04:34:26Z")
Harrison will never be a “superstar” Lol…get real ---
**Author:** ![TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/teenagemutantlesnarturtle/32/14534_2.png) [@TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle](https://og.discourse.group/u/TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/7 "2024-10-09T05:04:18Z")
For now at least hes not wrong I guess. You can get people who are kind of stars within the MMA bubble but not really breakout names that the average Joe might have heard of. Closest would be maybe Kimbo and Gina back in the day. ---
**Author:** ![LostWorld](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/lostworld/32/363_2.png) [@LostWorld](https://og.discourse.group/u/LostWorld)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 7:35am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/8 "2024-10-09T07:35:04Z")
Strikeforce was doing great at building up the roster and getting eyes, the hockey guys bailing and dumping it to zuffa ended the chance of another big league in America. I actually liked bellator and think a few contracts and poor fights out of the contracts did them in, if some fights went different then they thrive but pfl is just too different, and I hate the digital cage. ---
**Author:** ![crazydave](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/crazydave/32/56894_2.png) [@crazydave](https://og.discourse.group/u/crazydave)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 9:12am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/9 "2024-10-09T09:12:56Z")
DC is a real jerkoff. Like a weird fat nerd bully. ---
**Author:** ![Jamie999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8c91f0/32.png) [@Jamie999](https://og.discourse.group/u/Jamie999)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/10 "2024-10-09T09:23:44Z")
> [@LostWorld](#): > > Strikeforce was doing great at building up the roster and getting eyes, the hockey guys bailing and dumping it to zuffa ended the chance of another big league in America. I actually liked bellator and think a few contracts and poor fights out of the contracts did them in, if some fights went different then they thrive but pfl is just too different, and I hate the digital cage. Strikeforce benefited from collapse of Pride and UFC failing to secure a bunch of big stars. They also had excellent production which I don’t believe (but not 100% sure) they did themselves. Bellator has always looked like shit on TV, Strikeforce put out a TV product that was at least on par with UFC arguably better production especially when compared to smaller UFC shows. Strikeforce had good TV deals too and at a time where people still watched TV. ---
**Author:** ![bateater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@bateater](https://og.discourse.group/u/bateater)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 2:14pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/11 "2024-10-09T14:14:27Z")
He’s not wrong. They are still just feeder leagues for the UFC. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/12 "2024-10-09T17:10:26Z")
Except ONE and Glory . ---
**Author:** ![Cyberc92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f17d59/32.png) [@Cyberc92](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cyberc92)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/13 "2024-10-09T17:13:12Z")
Pfl is such a disappointment. They have some awesome fighters on their roster too which is a shame. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/14 "2024-10-09T17:15:25Z")
> [@Cyberc92](#): > > Pfl is such a disappointment. They have some awesome fightets on their roster too which is a shame. this seems so true to me now ---
**Author:** ![SickEye](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/sickeye/32/1404_2.png) [@SickEye](https://og.discourse.group/u/SickEye)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:15pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/15 "2024-10-09T17:15:32Z")
> [@HongKongPhooey](#): > > Cormier achieved legend status during his UFC run. That’s debatable. He’s definitely a legend in his own mind, that’s undebatable. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/16 "2024-10-09T17:16:26Z")
JJones Took his Seoul ---
**Author:** ![colonelangus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/colonelangus/32/1067_2.png) [@colonelangus](https://og.discourse.group/u/colonelangus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/17 "2024-10-09T17:51:22Z")
> [@HongKongPhooey](#): > > Except ONE and Glory . Isn’t ONE literally run like a feeder league for the UFC? I thought that was Rich Franklin’s vision when he took the VP spot. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:00pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/18 "2024-10-09T18:00:01Z")
> [@colonelangus](#): > > Isn’t ONE literally run like a feeder league for the UFC? seems rare to me as i keep up on trades and signings imo ---
**Author:** ![phuckles](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/phuckles/32/19002_2.png) [@phuckles](https://og.discourse.group/u/phuckles)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/19 "2024-10-09T18:07:35Z")
She’s no Honda Housey. ---
**Author:** ![phuckles](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/phuckles/32/19002_2.png) [@phuckles](https://og.discourse.group/u/phuckles)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365/20 "2024-10-09T18:10:10Z")
Not glory. One, I agree. Elsewhere in the world though, not so much in the US. Top level muay thai guys that otherwise would have been unheard of, like Rodtang have gotten real big due to One. But, I do not disagree with DC. You will not get a Conor McGregor, a fighter so famous he transcends the sport and even non-fight fans know who they are, in any MMA promotion other than the UFC. Boxing is the only other place I can think of where fighters reach that “super star” level of fame. [Next page](https://og.discourse.group/t/dc-dismisses-pfl-and-bellator-says-ufc-is-the-only-place-to-earn-superstardom/9365.md?page=2)