# Is Jon hurting his legacy in your eyes? **URL:** \ **Category:** UltimateGround\ **Created:** [August 28, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324 "2024-08-28T00:39:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PatrickBateman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/patrickbateman/32/17372_2.png) [@PatrickBateman](https://og.discourse.group/u/PatrickBateman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/1 "2024-08-28T00:39:54Z")
Cleary he’s just cashing out. Jon doesn’t actually believe he’s the best in the world otherwise he’d take the bigger money fight against the actual interim champ instead of getting hounded by the mma world for being a duck at the end of his career. The more time that goes by the more people are becoming aware of his faults. Yes he has accomplished a lot like Lance Armstrong did but nobody believes Armstrong is the best bicyclist because he was the biggest cheat, and then you look at how everyone thinks he’s a duck now. Is he trading legacy points in for a gimmick payout against old man Stipe? ---
**Author:** ![Refugee](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/refugee/32/3678_2.png) [@Refugee](https://og.discourse.group/u/Refugee)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/2 "2024-08-28T00:44:49Z")
100% Fraud ---
**Author:** ![God\_Of\_Thunder](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/god_of_thunder/32/65896_2.png) [@God\_Of\_Thunder](https://og.discourse.group/u/God_Of_Thunder)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/3 "2024-08-28T00:44:54Z")
The eye poke king has hurt many eyes. Fuck him ![IMG_6444](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/2X/5/523cb85b87de43dffea00550e5dbcb4092a4fc2a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![PatrickBateman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/patrickbateman/32/17372_2.png) [@PatrickBateman](https://og.discourse.group/u/PatrickBateman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/4 "2024-08-28T00:45:05Z")
[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/2X/0/0ee62e16e3599de3f965fa828299bbfb0e0268e2.jpeg "BISPING reacts: Tom Aspinall BLASTS Jon Jones with HILARIOUS Video! 😂 | Is Jon REALLY Ducking Tom?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Agk_aM-q0ns) ---
**Author:** ![don-J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@don-J](https://og.discourse.group/u/don-J)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:45am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/5 "2024-08-28T00:45:06Z")
hurt it a long time ago. Nobody gives a shit about his fight with Miocic and rightfully see Aspinall as champ. If he never fights again, UFC wouldnt skip a beat. He has pretty much been gone for 4 years anyways. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickBateman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/patrickbateman/32/17372_2.png) [@PatrickBateman](https://og.discourse.group/u/PatrickBateman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/6 "2024-08-28T00:48:12Z")
Reyes beat his ass too, I don’t see how taking down and subbing a BJJ whitebelt noob like Gane means he can even be competitive against a true HW powerhouse. Tom would bludgeon him. ---
**Author:** ![Song2](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/song2/32/7100_2.png) [@Song2](https://og.discourse.group/u/Song2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/7 "2024-08-28T00:48:34Z")
Greatest fighter in mma history. Will retire as goat when he feels like it. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickBateman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/patrickbateman/32/17372_2.png) [@PatrickBateman](https://og.discourse.group/u/PatrickBateman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/8 "2024-08-28T00:51:27Z")
If he wanted people to overlook his cheating he should have just left quietly after getting gifted decisions against Reyes and Santos, now he’s bringing attention to the fact he truly looks scared. His reputation has been taking a beating for months and months now after they touted him as the baddest man on the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Song2](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/song2/32/7100_2.png) [@Song2](https://og.discourse.group/u/Song2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/9 "2024-08-28T00:53:12Z")
He’s defeated everyone ever put in front of him. Including the whole lhw division and more ex UFC champs than anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Song2](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/song2/32/7100_2.png) [@Song2](https://og.discourse.group/u/Song2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/10 "2024-08-28T00:53:30Z")
He made prime Shogun tap to strikes. ---
**Author:** ![Braf\_Zachland](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/braf_zachland/32/99891_2.png) [@Braf\_Zachland](https://og.discourse.group/u/Braf_Zachland)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:56am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/11 "2024-08-28T00:56:13Z")
Who? Oh that criminal fella? ---
**Author:** ![Phatty7711](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a5b964/32.png) [@Phatty7711](https://og.discourse.group/u/Phatty7711)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/12 "2024-08-28T00:57:58Z")
Fedor? ---
**Author:** ![Penxv](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/penxv/32/4250_2.png) [@Penxv](https://og.discourse.group/u/Penxv)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:04am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/13 "2024-08-28T02:04:37Z")
He ducked stipe his whole career. He has to look himself in the mirror when he retires. ---
**Author:** ![zero](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/zero/32/103851_2.png) [@zero](https://og.discourse.group/u/zero)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:06am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/14 "2024-08-28T02:06:41Z")
> [@Song2](#): > > prime Shogun ![Question Mark What GIF by MOODMAN](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/2X/5/5104b048d693428ba45505357727e2a937499201.webp) ---
**Author:** ![Song2](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/song2/32/7100_2.png) [@Song2](https://og.discourse.group/u/Song2)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:07am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/15 "2024-08-28T02:07:41Z")
UFC lhw champ coming off his two best performances Vs machida. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickBateman](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/patrickbateman/32/17372_2.png) [@PatrickBateman](https://og.discourse.group/u/PatrickBateman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:16am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/16 "2024-08-28T02:16:56Z")
> [@Song2](#): > > He’s defeated everyone ever put in front of him. Including the whole lhw division and more ex UFC champs than anyone. Never forget [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/2X/f/f8d58252595e5c891d4f6100ca2b9d714a50a5f9.jpeg "Dana White: 'I had Dominick Reyes winning 3-2' over Jon Jones | UFC 247 Post-Fight Press Conference") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pTHyLiH0VY) ---
**Author:** ![crabScissors](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/crabscissors/32/145_2.png) [@crabScissors](https://og.discourse.group/u/crabScissors)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:23am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/17 "2024-08-28T02:23:57Z")
> [@Penxv](#): > > He ducked stipe his whole career. He has to look himself in the mirror when he retires. Jon has been the UFC champion for the entirety of Stipe’s UFC career. From his first fight to his last fight Jon was the 205 champion. 205 was a much more competitive division in the UFC during every minute of Stipe’s title reign. The weight bully stuff is nonsense. Jon was lighter than most of his opponents. Bader, OSP, Rampage…they all cut as much weight or more than he did. I strongly dislike Jones, but let’s not get crazy and say he was scared of Stipe ---
**Author:** ![Penxv](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/penxv/32/4250_2.png) [@Penxv](https://og.discourse.group/u/Penxv)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/18 "2024-08-28T02:27:20Z")
He’s scared of something. ---
**Author:** ![crabScissors](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/crabscissors/32/145_2.png) [@crabScissors](https://og.discourse.group/u/crabScissors)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/19 "2024-08-28T02:28:06Z")
> [@Song2](#): > > UFC lhw champ coming off his two best performances Vs machida His 2006 GP run was prime Shogun. I was so happy when he beat Machida (both times IMO) but I don’t think it’s fair to call that his prime. It’s not fair when people pretend he was old and feeble either but he was a ways removed from his prime then ---
**Author:** ![IceCold](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/icecold/32/105086_2.png) [@IceCold](https://og.discourse.group/u/IceCold)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324/20 "2024-08-28T02:58:11Z")
His knees were done after all the surgeries. [Next page](https://og.discourse.group/t/is-jon-hurting-his-legacy-in-your-eyes/3324.md?page=2)