# Prime Cain vs Prime Cro Cop in pride **URL:** \ **Category:** UltimateGround\ **Created:** [August 31, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237 "2024-08-31T18:34:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TimDuncan](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/timduncan/32/214_2.png) [@TimDuncan](https://og.discourse.group/u/TimDuncan)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/1 "2024-08-31T18:34:42Z")
Idont really care for Cro Cop but he was a beast in Pride. Cain likes to push guys against the cage to pummel them and take them down. This would be harder in the ring. I still think Cain wins but it could go the other way. One thing is I think Cain puts a lot of pressure on Cro like Fedor did, Cro doesnt like fighting on his back foot. _Poll ([view on site](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/1))_ ---
**Author:** ![TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/teenagemutantlesnarturtle/32/14534_2.png) [@TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle](https://og.discourse.group/u/TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:38pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/2 "2024-09-01T13:38:28Z")
I’d still go with Cain but the ring would have made things more interesting and competitive for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Cotton](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cotton/32/1902_2.png) [@Cotton](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cotton)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 1:39pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/3 "2024-09-01T13:39:47Z")
Cain is getting brutally head kicked here IMO. ---
**Author:** ![fuck.alta](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/fuck.alta/32/28730_2.png) [@fuck.alta](https://og.discourse.group/u/fuck.alta)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/4 "2024-09-01T15:41:53Z")
i think cain will be out of range til he shoots or clinches, cro wont get off any power shots cain by top control decision, at that time ---
**Author:** ![WrestlingSucks](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/wrestlingsucks/32/1995_2.png) [@WrestlingSucks](https://og.discourse.group/u/WrestlingSucks)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/5 "2024-09-01T15:43:53Z")
Cro Cops takedown defense of squatting and pushing both hands under his opponents chin would not have worked against Cardio Cain. ---
**Author:** ![Non\_N00B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/2bfe46/32.png) [@Non\_N00B](https://og.discourse.group/u/Non_N00B)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 4:17am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/6 "2024-09-04T04:17:39Z")
Cain wouldn’t do worth a fuck without a cage, just like Randy Couture couldn’t. Kongo was all over Cain, Kongo couldn’t beat the the shell of crocop’s shadow without 15 kicks to the balls. Prime CroCop was able to bludgeon Coleman and Barnett 3 times. The hype train of Cain Valesquez disappears in the Pride ring before it ever leaves the station. ---
**Author:** ![WrestlingSucks](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/wrestlingsucks/32/1995_2.png) [@WrestlingSucks](https://og.discourse.group/u/WrestlingSucks)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 4:40am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/7 "2024-09-04T04:40:57Z")
Cro Cop got slept by Randleman. Cain was much better than Randleman. It’s easy to point out singular performances. ---
**Author:** ![Non\_N00B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/2bfe46/32.png) [@Non\_N00B](https://og.discourse.group/u/Non_N00B)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 8:20am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/8 "2024-09-04T08:20:29Z")
Cain cannot cover distance like that and is nowhere near as fast or explosive as randleman. He’s probably the least comparable wrestler type to Randleman ---
**Author:** ![FloppyDivac](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/floppydivac/32/1300_2.png) [@FloppyDivac](https://og.discourse.group/u/FloppyDivac)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 8:24am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/9 "2024-09-04T08:24:52Z")
> [@WrestlingSucks](#): > > Cain was much better than Randleman. Cain wasn’t the explosive athlete that Randleman was. And it was that explosiveness that got Kevin the win. But you also know he lost the rematch, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![lurking10er](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/lurking10er/32/3785_2.png) [@lurking10er](https://og.discourse.group/u/lurking10er)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 10:26am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/10 "2024-09-04T10:26:46Z")
Cain on PRIDE level PEDs is a scary thought. ---
**Author:** ![Pugilist82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Pugilist82](https://og.discourse.group/u/Pugilist82)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 10:53am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/11 "2024-09-04T10:53:02Z")
> [@WrestlingSucks](#): > > Cro Cops takedown defense of squatting and pushing both hands under his opponents chin would not have worked against Cardio Cain. Coleman and Randleman were much more accomplished wrestlers than Cain and he handled them fine. Post-injury Crocop would probably lose, but I don’t think Cain would have anything for a prime Crocop. ---
**Author:** ![Pugilist82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@Pugilist82](https://og.discourse.group/u/Pugilist82)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/12 "2024-09-04T10:55:05Z")
> [@WrestlingSucks](#): > > Cro Cop got slept by Randleman. They fought twice. He won the rematch. ---
**Author:** ![Non\_N00B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/2bfe46/32.png) [@Non\_N00B](https://og.discourse.group/u/Non_N00B)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 11:03am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/13 "2024-09-04T11:03:47Z")
He was already on plenty of EPO. Otherwise he would have just been that fat Mexican dude that gassed out in 2 min. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Diet\_Butcher](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/the_diet_butcher/32/10319_2.png) [@The\_Diet\_Butcher](https://og.discourse.group/u/The_Diet_Butcher)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/14 "2024-09-04T11:22:30Z")
Pride rules greatly favor crocop ---
**Author:** ![Nickelback\_is\_my\_jam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Nickelback\_is\_my\_jam](https://og.discourse.group/u/Nickelback_is_my_jam)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 11:40am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/15 "2024-09-04T11:40:50Z")
You’d favour both on their “home ground”, surely? Prime Cain, while brief, was having his name put alongside Fedor, so he wouldn’t be an easy fight, even in Pride rules. ---
**Author:** ![WrestlingSucks](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/wrestlingsucks/32/1995_2.png) [@WrestlingSucks](https://og.discourse.group/u/WrestlingSucks)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/16 "2024-09-04T12:26:43Z")
> [@Pugilist82](#): > > > [@WrestlingSucks](#): > > > > Cro Cops takedown defense of squatting and pushing both hands under his opponents chin would not have worked against Cardio Cain. > > Coleman and Randleman were much more accomplished wrestlers than Cain and he handled them fine. Post-injury Crocop would probably lose, but I don’t think Cain would have anything for a prime Crocop. Cain was a much more accomplished MMA fighter which is what we are discussing. Cain didn’t need the cage to take people down. Hes fought in a ring before but I’m sure y’all knew that [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/3X/d/1/d1afb40578bca6a644b971fcc66e85813a151ca4.jpeg "Cain Velasquez takedowns") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxLnU2kgYl8) ---
**Author:** ![WrestlingSucks](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/wrestlingsucks/32/1995_2.png) [@WrestlingSucks](https://og.discourse.group/u/WrestlingSucks)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/17 "2024-09-04T12:31:05Z")
> [@Pugilist82](#): > > > [@WrestlingSucks](#): > > > > Cro Cop got slept by Randleman. > > They fought twice. He won the rematch. So, he split with a blown up welterweight and that’s evidence he would beat Cain? Nah. ---
**Author:** ![TimDuncan](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/timduncan/32/214_2.png) [@TimDuncan](https://og.discourse.group/u/TimDuncan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 5:58pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/18 "2024-09-04T17:58:45Z")
Do you still trane? Do you have a BJJ belt? ---
**Author:** ![onepunchJD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/onepunchjd/32/340_2.png) [@onepunchJD](https://og.discourse.group/u/onepunchJD)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/19 "2024-09-04T18:39:07Z")
> [@Non\_N00B](#): > > Kongo couldn’t beat the the shell of crocop’s shadow without 15 kicks to the balls. Quote of the day right here. Take notes kids … ![Simon Cowell Wow GIF by America's Got Talent](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/2X/7/74ab911f8fc0c6e94457d2f95dedf2f2ae5944ae.webp) ---
**Author:** ![onepunchJD](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/onepunchjd/32/340_2.png) [@onepunchJD](https://og.discourse.group/u/onepunchJD)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2024, 6:41pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237/20 "2024-09-04T18:41:00Z")
> [@WrestlingSucks](#): > > Cro Cop got slept by Randleman. Cain was much better than Randleman. It’s easy to point out singular performances. Seems like you might have contradicted yourself there a little… Regardless, Randleman was a beast, he was just a hot/cold fighter. On a given night he was a dangerous fight for anyone. Randleman planned that hook off a takedown feint. Cro Cop got caught with it. Probably Randleman’s most impressive win. The rematch… not so impressive. Hot/cold. [Next page](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-cain-vs-prime-cro-cop-in-pride/4237.md?page=2)