# Prime Sakuraba vs Duplessis **URL:** \ **Category:** UltimateGround\ **Created:** [December 15, 2024, 10:54pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501 "2024-12-15T22:54:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![FingerorMoon](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/fingerormoon/32/53942_2.png) [@FingerorMoon](https://og.discourse.group/u/FingerorMoon)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/21 "2024-12-16T02:57:38Z")
lol come on … Saku might be my all time favourite, but MMA skillsets has risen a fair amount since the early 2000s. DDP would absolutely kill him. ---
**Author:** ![Cheddar\_Man](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cheddar_man/32/87519_2.png) [@Cheddar\_Man](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cheddar_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 2:57am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/22 "2024-12-16T02:57:41Z")
Only Rampage and Cop would have a chance. ---
**Author:** ![buddie](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/buddie/32/11417_2.png) [@buddie](https://og.discourse.group/u/buddie)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:00am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/23 "2024-12-16T03:00:45Z")
I’m sorry but a prime Wanderlei Silva would knock him out savagely. If you think, for example, Igor, the greatest tournament fighter history, would have no chance, especially with knees to the head on the ground and in the second round of a tournament, when round 1 (fight 1 of the night) was no time limit. We simply disagree. How many guys today at your bjj academy do you think could beat Renzo, Royler, Conan Silvera, Nogueria and Alan Goes, from then or even today? How many of the guys in the modern UFC do you think are better grapplers? ---
**Author:** ![Cheddar\_Man](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cheddar_man/32/87519_2.png) [@Cheddar\_Man](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cheddar_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/24 "2024-12-16T03:04:25Z")
You know DDP is not a 170 lb Japanese grappler right? ---
**Author:** ![buddie](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/buddie/32/11417_2.png) [@buddie](https://og.discourse.group/u/buddie)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:09am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/25 "2024-12-16T03:09:18Z")
You know that neither are the guys Sakuraba fought right? Actually, no I don’t think you do newb ---
**Author:** ![anothertmaguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@anothertmaguy](https://og.discourse.group/u/anothertmaguy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/26 "2024-12-16T03:13:18Z")
> [@buddie](#): > > Wanderlei(x2), Rampage, Cro Cop, Igor, Renzo, Royce, Guy, Royler, Vitor, Carlos Newton, Vernon Tiger White, Alan Goes, Conan and Kimo I might give DDP a change against Carlos and White and maybe Kimo, but he has no chance against the rest of the field. ---
**Author:** ![Cheddar\_Man](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cheddar_man/32/87519_2.png) [@Cheddar\_Man](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cheddar_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/27 "2024-12-16T03:13:52Z")
I guarantee Ive watched mma longer and know more about their careers than you. ---
**Author:** ![Cheddar\_Man](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cheddar_man/32/87519_2.png) [@Cheddar\_Man](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cheddar_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:15am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/28 "2024-12-16T03:15:32Z")
So you think Royce Gracie would be the 185 lb champ today? ---
**Author:** ![anothertmaguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@anothertmaguy](https://og.discourse.group/u/anothertmaguy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/29 "2024-12-16T03:17:37Z")
> [@Cheddar\_Man](#): > > So you think Royce Gracie would be the 185 lb champ today? Fair point, I’ll add Royler to the list also. ---
**Author:** ![Cheddar\_Man](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cheddar_man/32/87519_2.png) [@Cheddar\_Man](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cheddar_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:19am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/30 "2024-12-16T03:19:00Z")
So you think Renzo would be 185 lb champ today? ---
**Author:** ![uniquenospaces](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a587f6/32.png) [@uniquenospaces](https://og.discourse.group/u/uniquenospaces)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/31 "2024-12-16T03:26:01Z")
Weight cutting is at another level now. DDP is as big as the LHWs and some HWs were back then. Sakuraba, to fight guys his own size, would be at 170 if not 155 today. ---
**Author:** ![TimDuncan](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/timduncan/32/214_2.png) [@TimDuncan](https://og.discourse.group/u/TimDuncan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/32 "2024-12-17T17:17:36Z")
Sakuraba is one of my favorite fighters of all time but he didnt take his stregth and conditioning seriously. Saku could get a single and get a sub, but I think the more likely senario is him getting puched out standing ---
**Author:** ![anothertmaguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@anothertmaguy](https://og.discourse.group/u/anothertmaguy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:25pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/33 "2024-12-17T17:25:13Z")
Probably not but I can see prime Renzo giving DDP fits with his skills. ---
**Author:** ![Cheddar\_Man](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/cheddar_man/32/87519_2.png) [@Cheddar\_Man](https://og.discourse.group/u/Cheddar_Man)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/34 "2024-12-17T17:29:08Z")
I could see prime Renzo maybe giving Akira Shoji fits. ---
**Author:** ![ParDeus](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/pardeus/32/7362_2.png) [@ParDeus](https://og.discourse.group/u/ParDeus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/35 "2024-12-17T17:32:35Z")
The only drug use that needs to be considered here is the people voting for Sak… Eastern Asians never make truly great MMA fighters. Change my mind. ---
**Author:** ![TimDuncan](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/timduncan/32/214_2.png) [@TimDuncan](https://og.discourse.group/u/TimDuncan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:10pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/36 "2024-12-17T18:10:30Z")
I could see prime Renzo giving Hendo fits ---
**Author:** ![Burner2274](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/burner2274/32/4890_2.png) [@Burner2274](https://og.discourse.group/u/Burner2274)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501/37 "2024-12-17T18:18:08Z")
Saku was an amazing athlete with natural talent. I bet if he was an up can comer now and trained with more ‘modern’ methods he’d be just as good on the ground as he was plus have much better striking. [Previous page](https://og.discourse.group/t/prime-sakuraba-vs-duplessis/16501.md?page=1)