# Velasquez vs Lesnar **URL:** \ **Category:** UltimateGround\ **Created:** [August 23, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638 "2024-08-23T02:55:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 2:55am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/1 "2024-08-23T02:55:57Z")
[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/uploads/og/original/2X/b/b465d9857e37f4dff67163f792367111e7df7c07.jpeg "Кейн Веласкез vs Брок Леснар | Полный бой") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rWGv8f2B2Y) ---
**Author:** ![Butthole](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/butthole/32/84891_2.png) [@Butthole](https://og.discourse.group/u/Butthole)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/2 "2024-08-23T06:09:35Z")
I was at this fight. The mehicans were going wild afterwards. ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/3 "2024-08-23T13:28:03Z")
VIVA Butthole ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/masterofmartialarts/32/4756_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://og.discourse.group/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/4 "2024-08-23T13:59:29Z")
Frenetic fight while it lasted, and definitely one of the exciting moments in my own personal history as a fight fan ---
**Author:** ![HongKongPhooey](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hongkongphooey/32/130745_2.png) [@HongKongPhooey](https://og.discourse.group/u/HongKongPhooey)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/5 "2024-08-23T14:05:59Z")
UFC 121: _Lesnar vs_. _Velasquez_ was a mixed martial arts event held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship on October 23, 2010, at the Honda Center in Anaheim, … ---
**Author:** ![U4EA](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/u4ea/32/134_2.png) [@U4EA](https://og.discourse.group/u/U4EA)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/6 "2024-08-23T17:14:23Z")
A perfect display of controlled aggression by Cain. ---
**Author:** ![James\_III](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@James\_III](https://og.discourse.group/u/James_III)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/7 "2024-08-23T20:28:09Z")
Remember the fight well and how wrong I called it! I favoured Cain to win if Lesnar couldn’t stop him in the first two rounds. Never ever expected Cain to get a first round stoppage and dominate Brock like that. Still blame Brock’s coach for his disastrous idea to have Cole Conrad as a sparring partner. How does a huge 6 foot 6 + 300lbs guy prepare you for someone like Cain Velasquez in an MMA fight? Light heavyweights or even middleweights would of been much better preparation for a smaller heavyweight like Cain. Being smaller and quicker would have replicated Cain much better in the cage. Not saying Brock would of won had he done that but he would likely have had a much better performance as a result. ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/masterofmartialarts/32/4756_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://og.discourse.group/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/8 "2024-08-23T21:57:03Z")
> [@U4EA](#): > > A perfect display of controlled aggression by Cain. I actually think this is a very good description of Cain’s fighting style. On top of his tangibles, it really set him apart from other heavyweights. It just seemed like from the beginning, he knew exactly how to fight. Kind of reminds me of how Fedor was. Aggressive, but patient and calculated. Fedor’s gift was timing. That guy could punch a meteor out of the sky after 1,000 years of celestial stagnancy. ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/masterofmartialarts/32/4756_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://og.discourse.group/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/9 "2024-08-23T21:58:27Z")
> [@James\_III](#): > > Remember the fight well and how wrong I called it! > > I favoured Cain to win if Lesnar couldn’t stop him in the first two rounds. > > Never ever expected Cain to get a first round stoppage and dominate Brock like that. > > Still blame Brock’s coach for his disastrous idea to have Cole Conrad as a sparring partner. How does a huge 6 foot 6 + 300lbs guy prepare you for someone like Cain Velasquez in an MMA fight? > > Light heavyweights or even middleweights would have been much better preparation for a smaller heavyweight like Cain. Being smaller and quicker would have replicated Cain much better in the cage. > > Not saying Brock would have won had he done that but he would likely have had a much better performance as a result. Yeah, probably. But I don’t think anything would have truly prepared Brock for that onslaught. Cain was there to take his head off, and he did. I think Cain would always be a bad matchup for him, but I have always wondered how Brock would have fared if he was able to survive that. ---
**Author:** ![U4EA](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/u4ea/32/134_2.png) [@U4EA](https://og.discourse.group/u/U4EA)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 10:22pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/10 "2024-08-23T22:22:43Z")
Yes, his instincts were great. I was watching an opera-trained female singer the other day, watching her modulate her voice using techniques. It’s a mixture of natural ability honed by technical training. Cain knew when to modulate, change mode. When to play defence, when to sit back and read and when to blast forward. Everything was a reaction to his opponent’s moves. Like Cody ‘No IQ’ Garbrandt, on their best night they might have been the best ever but they never reigned as long as they should have (if length of reign was proportional to ability). Cody went from untouchable brilliance vs Cruz to fighting with his chin in the North Pole and his hands in the South Pole. With Cain it was a lot of injuries but then I think the losses to both Francis and Werdum were legit losses… both those guys are beasts and in the GOAT HW discussion. ---
**Author:** ![Squishy\_Steel](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/squishy_steel/32/71173_2.png) [@Squishy\_Steel](https://og.discourse.group/u/Squishy_Steel)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 10:29pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/11 "2024-08-23T22:29:42Z")
I forgot how quick Brock gassed in that fight. Even by the time Cain took him down he was already starting to look more sluggish. ---
**Author:** ![gordash2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b4bc9f/32.png) [@gordash2004](https://og.discourse.group/u/gordash2004)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/12 "2024-08-23T23:05:05Z")
Forgot how massive Brock is, bc Cain is a big Mexican, quite a big size difference. Guys like Brock tend to break if you can apply equal pressure, they grow up always being the Hammer and never the nail. ---
**Author:** ![lurking10er](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/lurking10er/32/3785_2.png) [@lurking10er](https://og.discourse.group/u/lurking10er)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/13 "2024-08-24T11:16:23Z")
Had Cain’s body held up, and perhaps had he arrived in Mexico ealier to acclimate, there might be no question who the HW GOAT is. ---
**Author:** ![James\_III](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@James\_III](https://og.discourse.group/u/James_III)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/14 "2024-08-24T18:33:01Z")
> [@MasterOfMartialArts](#): > > > [@James\_III](#): > > > > Remember the fight well and how wrong I called it! > > > > I favoured Cain to win if Lesnar couldn’t stop him in the first two rounds. > > > > Never ever expected Cain to get a first round stoppage and dominate Brock like that. > > > > Still blame Brock’s coach for his disastrous idea to have Cole Conrad as a sparring partner. How does a huge 6 foot 6 + 300lbs guy prepare you for someone like Cain Velasquez in an MMA fight? > > > > Light heavyweights or even middleweights would have been much better preparation for a smaller heavyweight like Cain. Being smaller and quicker would have replicated Cain much better in the cage. > > > > Not saying Brock would have won had he done that but he would likely have had a much better performance as a result. > > Yeah, probably. > > But I don’t think anything would have truly prepared Brock for that onslaught. Cain was there to take his head off, and he did. I think Cain would always be a bad matchup for him, but I have always wondered how Brock would have fared if he was able to survive that. Oh sure like I said I don’t think it would of changed the result because Cain is such a beast and a much much better fighter. But training wrestling with a fast, agile 6 foot middleweight would have been much better preparation for keeping Cain on the ground than a giant slower less agile 6 foot 6 + 300lbs Cole Conrad. I think had he done that he would of been able to hold Cain down longer and survived to the 2nd or 3rd rounds perhaps and it would of been interesting to see what he could do there. However as his cardio decreased I think Cain would of taken over and brutally finished him regardless. I don’t know what Brock’s coaches were thinking especially having him charge at Cain like that in the opening seconds. I get that they thought they would try to overwhelm Velasquez but what was the plan B if that failed? Brock would be exhausted and Cain would be all over him which is exactly what happened in the end. Great fight while it lasted though! ---
**Author:** ![hjr2](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/hjr2/32/85377_2.png) [@hjr2](https://og.discourse.group/u/hjr2)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/15 "2024-08-24T18:35:03Z")
My god prime Cain was a sight to behold. ---
**Author:** ![Thrill\_Hammer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/thrill_hammer/32/9_2.png) [@Thrill\_Hammer](https://og.discourse.group/u/Thrill_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 10:55pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/16 "2024-08-24T22:55:43Z")
A buddy invited me to his house to watch this fight.I showed up with a case of beer, and he couldn’t order it because he didn’t pay his cable bill. As a result everyone decided to go to Applebee’s to watch. I said I’m not spending any more money on beer. I asked them to get a seat on the patio, So all my buddies were at a patio table with a TV, I went inside and ordered a meal to go. Then I stood outside the patio, getting beers from my car and watching the fights with them that way. ---
**Author:** ![lurking10er](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/lurking10er/32/3785_2.png) [@lurking10er](https://og.discourse.group/u/lurking10er)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/17 "2024-08-24T23:33:44Z")
Reading this story and “Real Men of Genius” is playing in my head. Well played! ---
**Author:** ![Thrill\_Hammer](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/thrill_hammer/32/9_2.png) [@Thrill\_Hammer](https://og.discourse.group/u/Thrill_Hammer)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 11:34pm UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/18 "2024-08-24T23:34:41Z")
LOL thanks man ---
**Author:** ![MasterOfMartialArts](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/masterofmartialarts/32/4756_2.png) [@MasterOfMartialArts](https://og.discourse.group/u/MasterOfMartialArts)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/19 "2024-08-25T01:40:34Z")
> [@James\_III](#): > > > [@MasterOfMartialArts](#): > > > > > [@James\_III](#): > > > > > > Remember the fight well and how wrong I called it! > > > > > > I favoured Cain to win if Lesnar couldn’t stop him in the first two rounds. > > > > > > Never ever expected Cain to get a first round stoppage and dominate Brock like that. > > > > > > Still blame Brock’s coach for his disastrous idea to have Cole Conrad as a sparring partner. How does a huge 6 foot 6 + 300lbs guy prepare you for someone like Cain Velasquez in an MMA fight? > > > > > > Light heavyweights or even middleweights would have been much better preparation for a smaller heavyweight like Cain. Being smaller and quicker would have replicated Cain much better in the cage. > > > > > > Not saying Brock would have won had he done that but he would likely have had a much better performance as a result. > > > > Yeah, probably. > > > > But I don’t think anything would have truly prepared Brock for that onslaught. Cain was there to take his head off, and he did. I think Cain would always be a bad matchup for him, but I have always wondered how Brock would have fared if he was able to survive that. > > Oh sure like I said I don’t think it would have changed the result because Cain is such a beast and a much much better fighter. > > But training wrestling with a fast, agile 6 foot middleweight would have been much better preparation for keeping Cain on the ground than a giant slower less agile 6 foot 6 + 300lbs Cole Conrad. > > I think had he done that he would have been able to hold Cain down longer and survived to the 2nd or 3rd rounds perhaps and it would have been interesting to see what he could do there. > > However as his cardio decreased I think Cain would have taken over and brutally finished him regardless. > > I don’t know what Brock’s coaches were thinking especially having him charge at Cain like that in the opening seconds. I get that they thought they would try to overwhelm Velasquez but what was the plan B if that failed? > > Brock would be exhausted and Cain would be all over him which is exactly what happened in the end. Great fight while it lasted though! I agree with all of this. What an era for heavyweight MMA. ---
**Author:** ![fuck.alta](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex003/user_avatar/og.discourse.group/fuck.alta/32/28730_2.png) [@fuck.alta](https://og.discourse.group/u/fuck.alta)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638/20 "2024-08-25T02:39:50Z")
BROCK WAS SUCH A DICK. LOVED SEEING HIM HGET SMASHED more so by reem [Next page](https://og.discourse.group/t/velasquez-vs-lesnar/2638.md?page=2)