Other than maybe Shogun, I can’t think of another dude who is better suited to be the poster child for CTE than Wandy.
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Nap phan
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I like Carwin and want the man to get paid regardless, but all these fighters are just trying to hustle honestly. For one he was a fucking walking laboratory which was always going to cause him issues in later life. Secondly he only ever had 14 fights totalling like 30 mins of combined fight time, was never KO’d and the only fight of his I recall him taking punishment was his final one against JDS. He dished out a lot of CTE, sure, dont think he received much.
Still, good guy and entertaining fighter. Throw him a bone.
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There aint no researcher called Martland5 in 1928 lol
Shits a COD gamertag lol
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He was for sure handing out some brain damage to his opponents too. He took years of frank mirs life with the beating he gave.
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It’s a reference note to a paper by Harrison Stanford Martland a pathologist who first used the term “punch drunk” a century ago.
It sucks what happened to Nam Pham but we all know that it happens to many when they spar too much and too hard.
It’s no one’s fault but our own for dumb things we do in our youth.
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Yeah I’m sure one payout would solve all the problems of all these fighters who have barely made a decent decision in their lives between em
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Facts not feelings. People are interested in truth, logic, and reason. Not," fuck a corporation just cause they can afford it!" That’s a teenage kid take.
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Agreed.
But it would be a good look for ufc parent company to be doing some sort of outreach with not just physical inury but also mental health and addiction, and not just ufc do wwe also.
But then thats almost an admission of responsibility.
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Maybe those fighters should sue him for CTE?
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That’s a similar mentality to people who think it’s ok for a parent who needs to feed their kids to steal from Walmart. Shane is a legend and from what I hear about him a good guy, but when he signed on to fight, if there wasn’t a disclaimer saying if he suffered any long term injury he’s be compensated, then he’s shit out of luck.
None of here guys complain at the time do they, just after they’ve retired, spunked all their income down the pan, and need a payday
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Or a liberal. Or the majority of Minneapolis. Or…
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As I think is the same for many of us, as a kid I didn’t like to take responsibility for everything I did. I wasn’t a bad person, I just used to not care about a lot of stuff. I grew out of that a long, long time ago.
Now, I just despise adults who won’t accept responsibility for their actions. These guys knew the risks and signed the contracts. Now they want paid twice for the work they did. And that is putting aside the fact that there is no way they can prove the UFC is responsible for their current health. In the case of Wanderlei, who suffered two brutal KOs in the year before his second run in the UFC, it’s just ridiculous. He might as well be suing Chute Boxe for the gym wars.
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Although we may think it’s common sense nowadays, it was not until 2022 that research linked repeated shots to the head with CTE in a causal relationship. As a result, anyone who fought prior to 2022 could not make an informed decision not to fight because of what might happen down the road. I’m a reasonably intelligent guy and I did a few fights. If I had been talented enough to be in the UFC, I’d have done that too. I stepped away when I realized that local shows were really as far as I was capable of going, and that wasn’t the future I wanted. I had other things to fall back on. Many fighters do not have anything else.
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Punch drunk has been known since forever. It has been known medically long enough to have gone through a name change from dementia pugilistica to chronic traumatic encephalopathy.
You think none of these guys knew Muhammed Ali’s story?
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He wore Calos shirt on the Ultimate Fighter in support of Frank Edge. Shane will always be good in my book… (as long as he doesn’t kill anyone or break the law horribly)
It’s not about feelings.
Every single sports league has been taken to task legally over this.
That is facts.
Why is the ufc somehow exempt from it? Because fighters knew better about the risks than nfl players? Or nhl players?
The only “teenage kid “ take is your half-assed and not fully-formed selective truth.