The only “stat” you keep bringing up is “Never been scratched” which nobody has ever cared about.
All the other stats that matter arent there.
Title fights
Title wins
Title Defences
Champ-Champ or Double champ status
Willingness to go toe to toe
Pulling up short notice to save a dogshit UFC
Most finishes
In all these categories he sucks.
Again he is a great fighter. He is in the cormier, weidman, holloway type level of goatness.
But he’s not the GOAT, he’s not even close to the GOAT and he’s not even close to Top 10 of all time.
I never said people dont care about the guy. He is a top 20 MMA fighter of all time, thats huge.
He just is not anywhere close to the “GOAT” pantheon of the top 5-10 fighters.
Imagine only Khabib and Benson henderson has 3 LW title defenses, and you say “well they are tied. But khabib took less damage and seemed more “dominant” you might have an argument going”
But when the gap is 5-10 title defenses, all the “no scratches” argument in the world doesn’t mean shit.
When there are 10 people with champ champ or double champ status, and your guy only held 1 belt in one division “never been scratched” is laughable.
When you look at the entire UFC record book, and the only place he shows up is “win streaks” but he’s is not No. 1 and instead Tied with 4 other dudes for 4th.
When you want to claim he is the lightweight goat, but he is tied with 4 other dudes at 3 defenses, and he won his title from Al Iaquinta somehow. And one of the other 4 dudes he is tied with won a welterweight belt from the at the time welterweight GOAT and HOFer in his prime.
Jones is currently 6 foot 4, 240 lbs with the longest reach in the UFC. I don’t even think he’ll look good against someone actually his size and 42, old man Stipe.
User Detroit Redneck signed up 5 hrs ago.
As we know, NDA is from Detroit.
And this user is is using this sub forum, so got me thinking that it could be him.
(He also called me a boomer, (I know NDA is 30-31 (so 10yrs younger than me)
NDA wouldn’t dare call me a boomer tho.
Is Winston still active, he really disliked NDA, and I remember NDA saying he didn’t even know why or what he did to piss him off