AI ranks top 10 athletes of all time; JBJ makes the list

[WrestlingSucks]

@onepunchJD

@WrestlingSucks

Winning titles in the NBA on three different teams is impressive. How many stars have done it?

Because he was bouncing around trying to make different superteams in an effort to chase Jordan.

Minimal points for that one lol.

Cleveland was a super team? LA?

[James_III]

@Butthole

Everything is set even - same clubs, same access to training etc…

It was basically foregone conclusion that Tiger was going to blow out Jack’s major championship record before tiger’s life completely imploded in just about every way.

I’ll take prime tiger in that one.

I look at it this way would Tiger have been in a position to surpass Jack’s majors record if he had been forced to use the primitive equipment from Jack’s day and without the benefits of modern training methods, science, Nutrition, Physical therapy, Personal trainers etc etc?

I personally do not think so.

I also think Jack would have won far more majors using modern equipment and having all of Tiger’s other modern conveniences as well.

[Butthole]

@James_III

I look at it this way would Tiger have been in a position to surpass Jack’s majors record if he had been forced to use the primitive equipment from Jack’s day and without the benefits of modern training methods, science, Nutrition, Physical therapy, Personal trainers etc etc?

There’s no reason to assume he wouldn’t… im honestly confused by question really. You think someone like phil mickelson would’ve dominated tiger if they both had to use old timey clubs and methods?

[JACK]

AI is still pretty half baked.

Trash can’t even beat me in a battle rap and is wrong plenty of times I ask it a basic question.

[DougWilson]

Wayne should be higher

[James_III]

@Butthole

@James_III

I look at it this way would Tiger have been in a position to surpass Jack’s majors record if he had been forced to use the primitive equipment from Jack’s day and without the benefits of modern training methods, science, Nutrition, Physical therapy, Personal trainers etc etc?

There’s no reason to assume he wouldn’t… im honestly confused by question really. You think someone like phil mickelson would’ve dominated tiger if they both had to use old timey clubs and methods?

Well there is if his whole entire game is based upon the benefits and advantages of modern equipment.

Phil Mickelson is another subject entirely. and only won 6 majors so not sure why you are bringing him up here when we are talking specifically about Tiger and Jack.

[Butthole]

Because if you’re saying tigers win total would’ve been effected by his access to equipment then I’m assuming his competition is being held to that hypothetical situation too (Phil being his main rival was just an example).

If you’re saying tiger uses old timey clubs/methods while phil and everyone else stays modern then I agree tiger wouldn’t have won as many majors.

If you’re saying tiger would’ve won less if everyone he played against had the same variables as him then I disagree.

[James_III]

@Butthole

Because if you’re saying tigers win total would’ve been effected by his access to equipment then I’m assuming his competition is being held to that hypothetical situation too (Phil being his main rival was just an example).

Well yes everyone in Tiger’s era is going to be held to that same standard I don’t think I ever implied otherwise?

[IceCold]

LOL you rap battled the AI?

What was that like?

[Butthole]

And I just don’t understand the assumption that that would’ve been a relative benefit to his competition in that situation

[James_III]

@Butthole

And I just don’t understand the assumption that that would’ve been a relative benefit to his competition in that situation

How about this Tennis analogy?

Pete Sampras heavily relied on a graphite tennis racket to generate huge amounts of power on his serve and forehand which would not have been possible using a wooden racket.

So his 14 majors were heavily dependent on modern rackets. Without them he would not have been as successfull.

Tiger and his competition benefited from modern clubs like Tennis players benefited from modern rackets.

Does that make more sense now?

[Cheddar_Man]

Im not into swimming its gay but isnt Phelps like the God of swimming?

[Butthole]

I assume the people that reach the pinnacle of whatever they do would be able to do so with whatever tools are at their disposal. Beyond that I wouldn’t assume much.

Jack probably beats tiger if they both use what jack learned with
Tiger probably beats jack if they both use what tiger learned with

And id give tiger the advantage if they both use what neither of them learned with

[James_III]

@Butthole

I assume the people that reach the pinnacle of whatever they do would be able to do so with whatever tools are at their disposal. Beyond that I wouldn’t assume much.

Definitely not in the case of Sampras.

When his serve and forehand were slowed down on clay he was not the same player that he was on hard court and grass. With his power reduced he was much more mortal as a result.

Being forced to use a wooden racket would severely the reduce the power that he could generate. You can also use similar arguments for other players like Nadal too.

@Butthole

Jack probably beats tiger if they both use what jack learned with
Tiger probably beats jack if they both use what tiger learned with

And id give tiger the advantage if they both use what neither of them learned with

Have you ever played with Jack’s era of clubs?

You might change your opinion if you do. Being successful with that equipment is much more difficult than modern era clubs which make things so much easier.

[Butthole]

@James_III

Have you ever played with Jack’s era of clubs?

You might change your opinion if you do.

I just said that jack would beat tiger if they both used jacks tools so I don’t know what you think I should change that to. And yes I have my grandfathers old set of clubs and have used them before. They’re definitely different and change the way you approach the game.

[James_III]

@Butthole

@James_III

Have you ever played with Jack’s era of clubs?

You might change your opinion if you do.

I just said that jack would beat tiger if they both used jacks tools so I don’t know what you think I should change that to. And yes I have my grandfathers old set of clubs and have used them before. They’re definitely different and change the way you approach the game.

Yes but you also said this which is what I was referring to.

@Butthole

Tiger probably beats jack if they both use what tiger learned with

And id give tiger the advantage if they both use what neither of them learned with

I think Jack beats Tiger in all three of your scenarios.

I’ve played with old clubs too which is what changed my mind on the issue. Used to think Tiger was the greatest in history until that point.

[MasterOfMartialArts]

lol @ caring about an AI list

[Butthole]

@James_III

I think Jack beats Tiger in all three of your scenarios.

Lol okay agree to disagree then. I’ll take the guy that was more dominant in the hypothetical prime vs prime matchup.

[buddie]

@crabScissors

he was not anything exceptional as a boxer compared to other heavyweight champions

Uhhhh…. Fucking bullshit. I’m happy to have this debate with you. Anyone who says Ali was not either the best or possibly second best heavyweight champion on history behind Joe Louis doesn’t know shit about boxing.

[crabScissors]

There’s just nothing exceptional there. It’s not the longest reign, it’s not like there’s one version of him for 2 or 3 fights that you’d favor him over anyone (BJ Penn style). I don’t get it. He split fights with his big rivals, probably really lost to Ken Norton twice.

Doesn’t seem top 3 to me