Is Jon hurting his legacy in your eyes?

Man, you don’t follow the sport very closely.

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Im more impressed with what guys like GSP did not ducking anyone, also going up in weight and never failing a ped test. Fedor is still the man in my eyes, he just stuck around far too long when it was obvious he had lost a step

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Yeah, he was clearly much slower at that point, hes just that good

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Super impressive win for Jones and I think he wouldve beat prime Shogun but Shogun had already started declining at that point. He started fighting young and those gym wars fucked all the CB fighters up

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I think his first surgery was 2007. His pre surgery record was 16-3. After surgery he was 11-11-1.

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Shogun tore an ACL during, and had surgery after second Machida fight.

Post-steroids record.

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Plus his first loss was against Babalu in his 5th fight where Babalu was 23-6/had already fought guys like Fedor, Chuck, Randleman, Dan Henderson, Chael, Mo Smith etc. Thats a tough 5th fight for Shogun

His second loss was against Coleman when he had that freak injury

His only bad loss pre surgery was against Forrest where he looked horrible. I wonder what happened that night, it was shocking to watch

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I’ll always wonder what would have happened if he didn’t dislocate his arm in that first Coleman fight cause Mark was mid 40s by the time they rematched.

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Christian Jon was my favorite of his public personas. Watching his old stuff while he played make believe is hilarious.

Cormier exposed it. Conor is trying his best, but Jones is the GOAT MMA heel.

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The Anthony Johnson one fucked me up. What the fuck lol

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Beavis And Butthead Comedy GIF by Paramount+

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A little late to this thread…

But, you’re kidding right?

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UFC champ shogun is better than Yakuza shogun

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Not in a million years man.

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Tom terrorizing Jon rn

Calling his manhood and now his entire legacy into question

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This is right. Jones faced the non-roided Shogun who had already lost to Forrest and Machida in the UFC. While he did brutally avenge both of those losses, he wasn’t the same as his Pride days.

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UFC HW championship title picture

Stipe - 0 wins in last 4 years (Aug 15 2020 was last win)
Aspinall - 7- 0 (technically 1 loss due to blown out knee 15 seconds in) since Stipe’s last win.

Jon - 1-0 in last 4 years.

Jon - yea the guy without a win the last 4 years is my toughest test to date.

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